Conversations with Jesus



This book will perhaps be the most difficult book you have ever read because it squarely calls the ego into question and gives you direction and encouragement regarding the only way to release it. It is not designed to be difficult. In fact, you will find the reading easy, palatable. The words will not be difficult to understand, but the movement they will create in you will. This book will require you to move beyond understanding and dare to live from there! It brings the principles of A Course In Miracles into bold relief, whether you are a Course student or not. It brings the principles of Christian Science into bold relief, whether you are a student or not. It brings the principles of Life into bold relief, whether you are avoiding It or not. It addresses you in terms of your divinity and says, wake up! And it addresses you in the language of your humanity so that you might comprehend it. I have stated that there are five major books of the modern world which address the divinity of man and facilitate his realization of Reality—his Awakening. The first is Science and Health by Mary Baker Eddy. The second is The Urantia Book. The third is A Course In Miracles. The fourth is Graduation: The End of Illusions (the original title of this message as a free Pdf-Document, received by Paul Tuttle), and the fifth is yet to appear (it may consists in the channeled writings of Paul Selig A.). I make this statement in order to save you time, and not as a claim to greatness. In all ways this book embodies the nature and character of the last stages of Awakening. Whether you find it applicable to you or not, the time will come when its truth will be confirming of your own unexplainable experiences of Awakening, allowing you thereby to move with less distraction into your primitive (original) Sanity—the Conscious experience of Creation as God is being It. It is my gift to you, and Your gift to yourself. Enjoy! Jesus, June 29, 1991


January 4, 1991 Friday Jesus: There is much for us to talk about, and I am going to instruct you to take time, for the time being, to speak with me daily. And nothing is to interfere with this. That is not a command. It is, rather, a means of setting the tone. In other words, there truly is nothing else more important which takes precedence over our having this time together regularly. I say this so that you will not see this time we take as interfering with other important things, and also so that you do not feel that you are slighting something that you feel is more important. I say it so that you might allow yourself to be perfectly at peace in devoting yourself to your Self. This series of conversations will be called Graduation. Although Susanne is listening, this material, until I say otherwise, is not to be shared with anyone. And, whether or not all of these conversations occur in your presence, Susanne, you always have permission to listen to them. Now, whatever excitement or trepidation might be being felt is, of course, not being felt by you, but by the ego—the fantasy sidekicks which both of you and everyone else who is not Awake thinks they companion with. In fact, they think that they are the fantasy partner. The excitement comes from the sense that what is going to be heard is foreign—therefore, perhaps threatening. And I am saying “threatening” with a certain sense of thrill, because the ego likes a little bit of threat. It provides the motivation for challenge. And it is all bull-shit! Graduation. What could one possibly graduate into? Well, isn’t graduation the process of releasing education—an educational process, a learning process? Indeed, the movement into an ego sense of Self is like starting school, and graduation is what happens when you abandon the ego sense and all of the interesting dynamics of becoming educated. In effect, it is truly a moving back into the elemental and fundamental natural perfection of one’s Being, which I will say constitutes a complete invalidation of everything which was ever learned in the educational process. Therefore, necessarily, graduation means forsaking the value which has been placed upon the learning. One does not, however, graduate by virtue of invalidating the learning, but rather by virtue of having arrived at a point of valuing essential, primitive, or shall I say original Being, and finding It to be more important and meaningful than the educational process and the sense of identity which that educational process has seemed to create. Therefore, one graduates by virtue of caring more about something beyond education, and the invalidating of the learning will occur because there is something more meaningful present, not because a conscientious effort is made to invalidate it. Graduation is the shift from thinking to Being. Now, this truly is not something foreign or unknowable or incomprehensible to either one of you, because to the degree that either of you have been Listening and Hearing, you have been getting experience at being out from Mind. You have learned that in abandoning thinking, you have continued 4 to be conscious and have connected with, as you might put it, an experience of Knowing which you have identified as Guidance. Although I am well aware that both of you are present and listening, and although I know that all of this will have meaning for you, Susanne, I am specifically addressing Pablo’s graduation.